Roland JD Xa

#31 por Arkiva Sandrider el 20/02/2015
Nah, mirando precios de productos ya sabidos y comparando los signos de puntuación que usan, no hay duda: el sinte cuesta más de un millón de euros...

No se si es una estafa espectacular, no sé que fama tiene esta web, o es su "cachonda" política con los precios de los sintes nuevos que aún no tienen en stock... con el Prophet 6 hacen "algo parecido"...


Para que no queden dudas...

http://www.the-soundfactory.com/soundfactory/synthesizers/analog.html


Así que bueno... pues quedamos como estábamos... disculpen el "fake-price"


Quizá es una táctica para que luego por 2.000 nos parezca barato... :-P
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#32 por --509851-- el 20/02/2015
En thomann está a un precio parecido...aunque un pelin mas caro jeje

http://www.thomann.de/es/roland_jd_xi.htm
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#33 por Arkiva Sandrider el 21/02/2015
Me permito copipastear en shakespeariano información de primera mano, sujeta a algo de especulación, lógica con un sinte apenas anunciado, pero esencialmente verdadera. Extraído del hilo sobre este instrumento en el foro de Gearslutz.


"As has been shown before, there are four analog parts and four digital parts. The analog synth doesn't need to be layered to make it richer or fatter, this synth sounds very good on its own.

The JD-Xi reflects the same "crossover synthesizer" design as the JD-Xa, with a fully analog synth and a digital synth engine which can be combined to make more complex sounds. Naturally, for the vintage synth purists and those who want to use their own effects units, the on-board effects can be defeated, or separate outputs can be assigned for this purpose.

The digital section uses the same SuperNATURAL synth engine in the Jupiter-80 and Integra-7, and as such, additional sounds can be downloaded from the Roland "Axial" website. (sg note: these might have to be specifically made for the JD-Xa though)

The main filter is a lowpass type, and consists of
LPF 1: the basic Roland filter (note: I'm assuming as in JP-80, Integra, System-1)
LPF 2: transistor ladder, Moog style filter
LPF 3: a filter with distinctive resonance characteristics

I'm excited by this! The transistor ladder filter is tailor made for bass synth sounds, and bass sounds are one of the trademark strengths of analog synths in general. Despite the fact that this is a Roland synthesizer, the Moogish character of this filter is well rendered, and perhaps sounds even beefier in this incarnation. The envelopes of the JD-Xa are fast and expressive and work well for producing punchy, snappy filter effects, and the filter is otherwise very good at producing thick, juicy analog-like textures. The third filter, I'd love to hear the kind of sounds it produces!

In regard to the sound of the filter, the newly unveiled JD-Xi demonstrates the sound of this new filter design. While similar, the electronics and converters used in the JD-Xa are of a higher grade, and thus produces a higher quality of sound.

In addition, in accord with the "crossover synthesizer" design philosophy, the combination of analog and digital aspects produces a synth which is a pleasure to create sounds on and play. The digital section can be routed through the analog filter, allowing for even more interesting, complex sound creation possibilities.

One of the many qualities which make analog synthesizers so desirable is the nature of the sound: thick, rich, organic, with smooth changes in tonality when manipulated. They have spent considerable effort to recreate the character of analog synths in the JD-Xa, with a corresponding focus on the quality of the electronics, controls and other components. Combining analog and digital synthesis in one unit produces an instrument with considerably more sound creation possibilities than with separate models.

Regarding the Roland legacy, lots of people have been asking for them to reproduce the Jupiter-8, but they wanted to up the ante and create something new. But they want to make sure that the instrument has the rich sound of their analog legacy, make it desirable and make an impact when you hear it. They want an attention grabbing synth, not just from the looks, but the sound. Smooth, analogish, big sounding in both sections.

The launch of the JD-Xa is scheduled for sometime in June. I can hardly wait! The price though... it could be rather steep, because a well made high-end synthesizer with such capability could have a similarly high-end price.

By the way, on the JD-Xa, only the CUTOFF knob is red. Perhaps because that's the most useful control, or Roland is inviting you to manipulate it and hear for yourself the quality of the filters? Most likely.

As with all pre-release products, specifications described in the article are subject to change (note: hopefully for the better!)"
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#34 por Arkiva Sandrider el 21/02/2015
Bueno, y el vídeo de la conferencia de prensa sobre el Xa, que no habíamos puesto por aquí aún...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4KeiyYPsQ4
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#35 por Hoperman el 26/03/2015
Al final se sabe el precio ? De la xa? Y cuándo saldrá? Xd
:manso:

ftiy

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#37 por Hoperman el 26/03/2015
Precisamente pude ver este video ayer,si no recuerdo mal,aunque no despeja dudas solo pone más los dientes largos!

ftiy

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#38 por Kurzleader el 26/03/2015
#36 buena pinta! a ver si en la musikmesse lo podemos oír.

"A veces, ante la adversidad, es cuando surgen los mejores trabajos" Alan Wilder

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#39 por Arkiva Sandrider el 27/03/2015
Esperando saber el precio y todas sus características... si no sube más allá de los 1700 en precio final... intentaré ir a por él... si se pasan... el Xi, que también está muy bien.
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#40 por Kurzleader el 30/03/2015

"A veces, ante la adversidad, es cuando surgen los mejores trabajos" Alan Wilder

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#42 por Arkiva Sandrider el 12/04/2015
http://www.bax-shop.fr/roland-jd-xa-synthetiseur-crossover-analogique-numerique.html

El precio de salida al mercado será de 2.600 €, que en la calle se quedarán en 2075 €, ya rebajado a tope.... en suma, 2.000 euros.
Como dije arriba hace unos meses, un sinte en la misma gama de precio y prestaciones es el Dave Smith Pro 2.

Yo estoy ahora ante la decisión de si irme a por este, o bien a por la versión más pequeña, o bien a por otro sinte, teniendo en cuenta que lo que puedo gastarme ronda esos 2.000 euros.

Pero ahora mismo me tira más la última opción. Irme a por un MFB Dominión 1, menos conocido, pero también de prestaciones parecidas, dado que teniendo un DAW y un sinte digital para aquellas funciones que se le escapen a los analógicos más puros, prefiero un analógico que suene de maravilla a un híbrido que me dará unos resultados que puedo conseguir mezclando en el DAW, y quizá con mayor personalidad en la parte de los sonidos puramente analógicos. Además el Dominión sale por 1.333 €, y es patcheable.

Debo aclarar que el sinte digital al que me refiero es el Roland V Synth XT, que me permite enrutar cualquier señal a través de su motor de síntesis, y efectos. Así que a mí me sale mejor el Dominion.


Aquí todas las características del JD-Xa. Información extraída del foro de Gearslutz.com:

Analog Engine

Each of the JD-XA's four analog parts has two oscillators, along with filter and amp sections and four envelopes all with incredibly fast attack and response times. You also get two LFOs, with super-smooth coverage from ultra-slow to ultra-fast. Start by creating your sound from scratch, or configure the JD-XA as an eight-oscillator, pure analog version of the legendary Supersaw waveform. Additionally you can invoke the power of Poly Stack mode for warm, organic four-note chords that will sweep you away. Once you've got that killer analog sound, you can route it directly to the analog dry output or send it to the on board digital effects for further experiments in the art of sound design.

Digital Engine

The JD-XA doesn't just do classic analog it's also equipped with a completely separate four-part, 64-voice digital sound engine powered by Roland's acclaimed SuperNATURAL synthesizer technology. This lets you play some of the most expressive and natural sounds available anywhere, as the JD-XA is compatible with the synth engine from the INTEGRA-7 sound module, a firm favourite of top producers, composers, and sound designers. And if you need some extra inspiration, visit Roland's online Axial community and download the latest creations from high-end programmers to tap into great sounds for a wide variety of genres.

Analog and Digital Crossover

With its distinctive crossover design, the JD-XA is very unique in its approach to synthesis. Not only can blend the engines together, but you can also use them completely independently, truly giving you two synths in one. Additionally, the analog and digital engines are able to interact in many creative ways. For example, digital sounds can be routed through the analog filters, or used as modulation sources for the Cross Mod and Ring Mod functions in the analog section. If you've got big ideas when it comes to sound design, you need a powerful and flexible synth, and the JD-XA really delivers.

Powerful & Versatile Effects

When it comes to effects, the JD-XA is well equipped to handle any sound shaping you want to apply. Each analog and digital section is equipped with a powerful and versatile MFX processor that offers 67 different effect types, including high-impact processing options like Bit Crusher. The essentials are also covered via the five system effects processors, which provide reverb, delay, and master EQ plus two TFX processors with 29 effect types each.

16-Track Pattern Sequencer & Real-Time / Step Recording

To get your creativity flowing, the JD-XA has a comprehensive 16-track pattern sequencer with 8 tracks for internal parts and 8 tracks for external sources, allowing you to build sequences and loops quickly and intuitively. Use real-time recording mode to lay down parts in a familiar linear fashion, or step recording mode to create in the old-school pattern style. However you like to work, this sequencer is designed to keep you connected to your music.

Flexible Routing and Connectivity

Providing unprecedented routing options thanks to a flexible system the JD-XA lets you route a single mod source to four destinations. In addition, you're able to control external modules or DAW plug-ins via MIDI, USB, and CV/GATE, making this a synth that can sit at the heart of any live or studio setup. If you can imagine it, you can probably do it on the JD-XA.

Mic-Controlled Modulation

The JD-XA's mic input brings an extra dimension to your music. For starters, you can use the mic as a modulation source, controlling filter cut-off, Cross Mod, or other parameters with your voice. Alternatively, you can dial up Vocoder tones, or simply add some pro-grade vocal reverb via the mic's dedicated reverb processor.


Features

Advanced synthesizer with independent analog and digital sound engines
Discrete analog synth engine (four parts) with 2 x OSC, Filter, Amp, 4 x Env (2 x Pitch, Filter, Amp), and 2 x LFO per voice plus Analog Dry Out for raw signal output
Analog filter section features 4-Pole, transistor-ladder, and multi-mode (LPF/HPF/BPF) filters with supremely smooth, natural response
OSC section includes Cross Mod, Ring Mod, and OSC Sync, all of which can be used simultaneously
LFO rate covers a wide range from ultra-slow to ultra-fast
Incredibly fast attack envelope time
Separate digital section built around SuperNATURAL synth engine (four parts, 64 voices) that's compatible with INTEGRA-7 sound libraries
Digital parts can be routed through the analog filter section for warm, organic results
Comprehensive effects with MFX for all parts plus five system effects (Reverb, TFX1, TFX2, Delay, and Master EQ)
Flexible routing options for highly creative sound design
Intuitive 16-track pattern sequencer (8 tracks for internal parts, 8 tracks for external parts) for fast creation of songs and loops
Onboard USB, MIDI, and CV/GATE interfaces plus flexible MIDI control functionality
Mic input allows you to modulate synth sounds with your voice and explore classic Vocoder functionality
Plenty of backlit knobs, sliders, and controllers for hands-on sound shaping
Specifications

Sound Engines: Analog, Digital
Number Of Keys: 49
Key Action: Velocity Sensitive (Aftertouch)
Inputs: 1 x XLR (Microphone), 1 x MIDI In
Outputs: 2 x Master Out, 1 x Headphones, 1 x Analog Dry, 1 x Click, 2 x Gate Out, 2 x CV Out, 1 x MIDI Out
Additional Connections: 3 x Foot Pedal, 1 x USB (Computer), 1 x USB (Memory)
Analog Oscillators: 2
Analog Filters: 2
Analog Amps: 2
Analog Envelopes: 4
Analog LFO (Per Voice): 2
System Effects: Reverb, TFX1, TFX2, Delay, Master EQ
Sequencer: 16-Track
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#44 por Kurzleader el 13/04/2015

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#45 por Kurzleader el 15/04/2015

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