Que tal es el FL 5 ?

el_callao
#1 por el_callao el 12/10/2006
bueno, queria saber que opinión teneis del Fl 5, pues estaba interesado en comprarlo, pros y contras, gracias de antemano...
saludos
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Ricardo Fuentes
#2 por Ricardo Fuentes el 12/10/2006
Pues compra el 6 que manda a volar al 5.0
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el_callao
#3 por el_callao el 12/10/2006
podrias decirme cuales son las ventajas principales del 6 con respecto al 5, dj_charlie?
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Ricardo Fuentes
#4 por Ricardo Fuentes el 12/10/2006
Todas, xDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Infinidades, =P Enserio, el FL 5.0 es una porquería >
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ulozilla
#5 por ulozilla el 12/10/2006
Eso es un comentario muy subjetivo dj_charlie...
Mira no se si te puedan vender la version 5 aun, pero si optas por la 6 no te pierdes de nada con respecto a la anterior, yo he visto gente que se ha quedado con la version 5 ya que la 6 les ha traido problemas o simplemente por cosa de gustos, hay gente que ni necesita las funciones de la version 5, es mas, he visto por ahi algunos que aun usan la version 4.5.2.
Yo use por bastante tiempo la version 5(5.01 para ser exacto),y ahora estoy usando la 6 ,que trae algunas cosas mas, como el "mezclador" mejorado, mas efectos que el 5, tiene otras cosas como la opcion "split by channel" que es muy comoda a la hora de pasar las cosas al playlist y otra cosa importante de la version 6 es que acepta multiples controladores midi si no me equivoco.
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ulozilla
#6 por ulozilla el 12/10/2006
Aqui hay algunas diferencias entre la version 5.0 y la 6.0 (versiones iniciales)


5.0 (22 november 2004)

New automation clips in playlist.
New Fruity WaveShaper effect plugin.
New Fruity Pad Controller (FPC) plugin.
New Collab tool to chat & exchange projects
Can now load MP3's into sampler channels and audio clips.
New powerful arpeggiator tool in piano roll.
New option to render audio files with slice markers (regions) built-in.
Fruity Slicer now gets slices from audio file cue points as well
Much improved Fruity Slicer, with stretching and REX loops support
New 'make unique' option for audio clips to sever parts.
New Elastique time-stretching and pitch-shifting in audio tracks
Tempo-synced preview of stretched samples.
Added author & genre to song properties, saved inside WAV files and MP3 tags.
Added tempo detector to audio tracks to align project tempo to song clips.
New drum flam tool in piano roll.
DrumSynth Live now supports 120 patches.
Enhanced Fruity Granulizer with transient-alignment and new skin.
Added note legato and articulation tool in piano roll.
Basic loop recording.
Added tempo tapping feature.
Added better automation smoothing to MIDI remote control
Setting for steps per beat now adjust tempo as well
Fruity Slicer note dumping is now done in piano roll selection (if any).
New slicing engine in Fruity Slicer and FL (audio clips).
Stacked notes in piano roll randomizer now work better.
Made brush default tool in event editor.
Little bugfix for monophonic mode in step sequencer.
Restyled Fruity HTML NoteBook plugin.
Background wallpaper can now be HTML pages.
Bugfix in Sytrus (making it a little faster).
Added copy/paste preset to Sytrus, to share presets between all plugin versions of it.
Added global envelope mode to Sytrus (version 1.2), for perfect gated presets.
Fixed crash when deleting MIDI out channels sometimes.
Song markers now properly stored in rendered waves even with tempo changes.
Fixed memory leak in Fruity Slicer plugin.
Updated drum list in the MIDI out plugin to the GM2 standard.
Made channel resampling option always enabled.
'Keep on disk' samples can now be modified (loaded from disk when needed).
Can now check 'keep on disk', 'resample' & other options even when not possible.
Newbie enhancement: snapping is off by default.
Can now drop samples onto the channel settings window.
Preview now only loads the few first seconds (for MP3's to preview faster).
XY controller now supports multiple joysticks.
Right-clicking the recording disk to arm a mixer track won't prompt for a filename.
Added option not to auto-unarm mixer tracks.
Selecting an ASIO input now arms the mixer track automatically.
Added option to trim audio clip parts outside playlist selection.
Auto-envelope cleaning in step edit mode in Sytrus & Fruity Waveshaper envelopes.
Remove transposing from quantization tool
Toolbars can now be locked.
Replace 'Ignore velocity' option by 'Velocity link', to control per-note filter using velocity.
Can now shift+click note events to unselect them.
Can now set one of the external audio editors to replace the default one.
Added support for Hercules DJ Console
Added sampler interpolation method selector for realtime playback (audio settings).
Removed obsolete 1..9 pattern selector.
FST and FSC file extensions are now associated with the app
Auto-scrolling switch now in the main part of the UI, and auto-disabled.
Song selection now shown in the transport slider as well.
Minor cosmetic changes and new wallpapers.
Shift disables 'typing keyboard to piano' feature
BkSp shortcut for quick snap switch.
Fixed problem with incoming MIDI note off messages too quickly after note on.
Minor fix in Fruity Vocoder.
Removed (abused) live loop, in favor of Collab.


6.0.1 (08/12/2005)

FL now compiled with Delphi 2005.
New popup menu engine.
New scale-detecting helper in piano roll.
Multiple MIDI input devices are now accepted.
MIDI clock sync can now be sent to multiple MIDI devices.
All control events can now be edited in the piano roll.
Edited events are now stored in a most recently used list.
Piano roll now offers 16 note colors (that can be seen as MIDI channels).
Piano roll helpers also mark notes that have names (useful with Fruity Slicer).
Can now drag individual slices from the Fruity Slicer onto channels (or the
explorer), and copy them to the Windows audio clipboard.
Revamped mixer with enhanced free track routing (all tracks can now be sends).
Piano kb keys now accepted in the MIDI remote control box (white = toggle,
black = latch).
'New 'Link all parameters' option in plugins & mixer'
Can now move mixer tracks around.
New glue tool in piano roll, to glue contiguous notes.
Can now replace a channel type by another (was already doable through presets).
Various other enhancements in the piano roll.
Support for MIDI hold & sostenuto with result directly in piano roll.
Minor usability improvements.
Ctrl+mouse wheel to center-zoom at the mouse position in event editors,
piano roll & playlist.
Improved stability/safety for ASIO devices.
Little bugfix in automation clips.
Drag/drop now works on detached playlist.
Speed improvements.
Knobs animation is now smoother (for those who can notice).
Browser revamped visually, with various little enhancements.
Browser smart search feature, allowing things like .
Browser updated to remember its last state, visual drag/drop.
Browser now monitors FL's data folder to refresh itself.
Browser can show all file types & their extension.
Added browser snapshots.
Dropping a file onto the browser jumps to that file (providing it's available
somewhere in the browser).
Sytrus: arpeggiator built in envelopes, audio file to envelope analyzer,
envelope vertical flipping.
Sytrus: can now drag/drop single-cycle shapes onto harmonics editor, or channel button.
Sytrus: waveforms can now be saved to (32bit) WAV files.
Sytrus: enhanced waveform editing tools.
Sytrus: added 4 new filter types.
Sytrus: can now lock harmonics individually.
Sytrus: can now drag waveforms (click big waveform or ctrl+click small one)
onto other synthesizers.
Small mini-piano roll update bugfix when project browser is open.
"Typing kb to piano" feature now works from the browser window£
as well (accel chars now only work in the tree when the feature is off).
Bugfix in level scaling event editor tool.
New EQUO automatable equalizer plugin.
New Fruity Reeverb 2 plugin.
Fruity Slicer: loading/slicing drumloops doesn't break audio engine anymore.
Live mode: song relocation is bar-synchronized.
Alt+/* and Ctrl+Alt+/* to jump to/select next/previous song markers.
Misc little enhancements: middle mouse button in browser, mouse wheel
working in some new places, etc.
Added support for some more hardware controllers.
Ultrasmooth visual feedback now off by default and sets a higher smoothness,
and also now applies to fruity plugins.
Playlist pattern lane gets a popup menu, and selected patterns can be renamed
all at once.
Added option to split (explode) a pattern by channel.
Shift+piano roll/playlist cut tool now selects a column.
Alt+click in piano roll/playlist/event editor bypasses the current snap (very handy).
Shift+left/right or Alt+left/right shifts (nudges) selected notes in piano roll/playlist.
Bugfix in audio recording undo, and also made it clearer (tells which files are
gonna be undone).
Can now edit note properties to change a note into a slide.
Added workaround for minor Windows graphic bug in the playlist.
Added CC standard names to popup in MIDI remote control box.
Shift+mouse wheel to scroll playlist, shift+right click for playback tool in piano
roll, and various similar little enhancements.
Can now jump to song markers using MIDI input, and create them on the fly.
Wrappers publish 128 extra parameters for CC's, so that you can control a VSTi
without using a MIDI out channel in most cases.
FL can now send MTC as well as MIDI clock for output synchronization.
Support for multimedia keyboards (play/pause/stop/prev/next/browser keys, etc).
Newbie enhancement: long audio files are not kept on disk by default anymore.
Option to save audio & MIDI clipboard data to files (see tools menu).
Double-right-click piano roll & playlist brings the options menu.
Better support for the Korg MS20 controller: cable in/out are mapped to CC to
work as switches.
Enhancement for tablet PC's: most forms states are saved per screen resolution
(handy when switching from landscape to portrait mode).
Enhancement for tablet PC's: stylus mode that allows easier tweaking of knobs
as well as several little usability improvements for pencil use.
App includes a 128x128 icon size for application bars (ObjectDock, etc).
LAME DLL now loaded dynamically (to avoid problems when FL is used as a plugin).
Little fix for piano roll splitter losing its aspect ratio when resizing the window.
Less flicker when resizing some windows (unless detached).
New 'one-click recording' option for dummies (in the tools menu).
Added auto-map all ASIO inputs (just like outputs), to monitor all inputs.
New Fruity Squeeze sound degradation plugin.
FPC: volume and pan envelopes per pad.
FPC: pad presets and note layouts.
New Wasp XT synth plugin.
Wrappers now automatically save plugin specific settings (optional).
Video player now has an option to disable rendering audio.
New GM preset for DrumSynth Live.
Added support for Frontier Design's TranzPort controller.
Piano roll note properties can now show note lengths (optional).
Alt+mouse wheel to change note properties (of the closest note, or the selected ones)
in piano roll & SHIFT+mouse wheel to move them around.
Caps lock to move notes without changing their ending times in piano roll.
More accuracy in the drawing of events in the piano roll.
Browser now shows .FNV (envelopes), .DWP (DirectWave) and .FXP/.FXB (VSTi patches).
New Fruity Envelope Controller plugin.
New DirectWave sampler plugin.
New Chrome visualization plugin.
Fruity Slicer can now export sliced sample.
New sample and preset downloader for FPC and DirectWave plugins.
Existing automation clips are now adapted when the PPQ settings have changed.
Added workaround for UAD-1 plugins to work.
Cue points are not turned into regions anymore.
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Tony (Scorpmusic)
#7 por Tony (Scorpmusic) el 22/10/2006
el_callao @ 12 Oct 2006 - 04:08 AM escribió:
bueno, queria saber que opinión teneis del Fl 5, pues estaba interesado en comprarlo, pros y contras, gracias de antemano...
saludos


Estando el 6,mejor antes que el 5....y en cualquier momento llega el 7,y las actualizaciones son de por vida... :wink:
Saludos :hola:
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Nachenko
#8 por Nachenko el 22/10/2006
El 5 no se puede comprar online, sólo el 6.Pero el 6, sólo por la nueva mesa de mezclas, hace que no quieras volver al 5 nunca.
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