Ayuda!! Ableton salta cada 2x3

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#1 por Mayn el 19/04/2011
Hola!
Soy usuario de ableton desde ya hace un tiempo y nunca habia tenido ningún problema serio hasta ahora.

Mi ableton salta cada 2x3!! es increible.. nose ya que hacer reinstale varias veces, actualize a una nueva version (de 8.1 a 8.2.1)

Todo iva bien hasta que instalé 2 plugs: el Izotope Ozone 4 i el NI Massive. Lo raro es que al principio funcionavan bien hasta que un buen dia... pum! empezó a saltar i ya se va conviertiendo en costumbre.. Puede ser devido a estos 2 plugs? he probado de no usar-los y me pasa igual...

Nose que hacer me estoy volviendo loco! aver si me pueden ayudar! 1000 gracias de antemano!
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#2 por Solid el 19/04/2011
¿puedes definir un poco mejor lo de saltar?

igual el problema lo tienes con el buffer de audio... prueba a subirlo.

Mi Música y programa en Soundcloud :)
Facebook del programa:)

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#3 por zsynth el 19/04/2011
Puede que tengas mucha carga de pistas y se esté saturando el disco?

Two sounds are better than one...

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#4 por Mayn el 19/04/2011
salta, me refiero a que peta i me vuelve al escritorio. Por ejemplo estoy tocando el NI Massive una oscilacion, la otra bien y configuro los lfo y pam! se me va todo a la mierda, aveces también tocando la linea de oscilacion tb peta, no solo en massive tb en el ozone canviando el efecto de mastering peta y incluso trabajando en un drum kits me petó :S

sobre lo de la carga de pistas pensé que seria por eso ya que la carga de cpu aveces me subia hasta el 60% - 70&, me estuve informando y recomendavan congelar las pistas, agrupar y usar efectos/plug en varias pistas para que no se sature tanto.

Congelé las pistas borré todas las que no utilizo y incluso borré cosas de mi mac para tener mas espacio y ahora estoy trabajando con 60gb (35Gb antes) libres en el disco y sigue igual :S,

1000 gracias por su ayuda ;), aver si lo solucionamos :D
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#5 por Mayn el 19/04/2011
Solid, tamaño del búfer para que sirve? no tengo nidea lo tengo ahora en 512 samples probaré de subir-lo (por ejemplo a 1024 no?) y aver si funciona grácias!!!

por si sirve de algo para disipar más dudas utilizo:
MAC OSX, también utilizo una tarjeta de audio externa (alesis iO2) y lo tengo conectado a la AKAI APC40 y a una mesa de mezclas
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#6 por zsynth el 19/04/2011
Es muy, muy raro que se te cierre el programa... y mas en OSX
Tienes instalado algun plugin de "procedencia de dudosa calidad?"

Two sounds are better than one...

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#7 por Solid el 19/04/2011
#6

El ozone y massive?
:desdentado:

Mi Música y programa en Soundcloud :)
Facebook del programa:)

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#8 por zsynth el 19/04/2011
O cualquier otro....

Two sounds are better than one...

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#9 por ismy el 19/04/2011
El Massive es pirata, fijo. XD

https://soundcloud.com/ismaserrano
https://soundcloud.com/ethan-poe

Waiting for the end LP - Ismael Serrano
http://music.ismaserrano.com/

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#10 por zsynth el 20/04/2011
Solo pregunto...

Two sounds are better than one...

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#11 por Mayn el 23/04/2011
los plugs són de dudosa calidad si.. ese debe ser el problema no? probé de desintalar pero me sigue ocurriendo lo mismo..
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#12 por Mayn el 23/04/2011
aquí les dejo el informe de errores, quizás sirva para poder solucionar mi problema, yo de ahi no entiendo casi nada:

Process: Live [248]
Path: /Live 8.2.1 OS X/Live.app/Contents/MacOS/Live
Identifier: com.ableton.live
Version: 8.2.1 (8.2.1)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [72]

Interval Since Last Report: 6085513 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 231
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 5998 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 14

Date/Time: 2011-04-23 19:37:20.437 +0200
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
Report Version: 6
Anonymous UUID: 1026B63C-8B6A-4D49-8D97-079AC75C5340

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x00000000000193c4
Crashed Thread: 4

Thread 0:
0 com.ableton.live 0x01568b03 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4099029
1 com.ableton.live 0x01564002 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4079828
2 com.ableton.live 0x0080c303 0x1000 + 8434435
3 com.ableton.live 0x015e3f4d std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4603935
4 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
5 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
6 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
7 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
8 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
9 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
10 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
11 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
12 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
13 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
14 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
15 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
16 com.ableton.live 0x015e3fac std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4604030
17 com.ableton.live 0x015873a8 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4224122
18 com.ableton.live 0x01587525 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4224503
19 com.ableton.live 0x01583362 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 4207668
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21 com.ableton.live 0x014a524a std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3298076
22 com.ableton.live 0x014a52e6 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3298232
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26 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x943e0aa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
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28 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x948c60c5 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
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32 com.apple.AppKit 0x9589cf9f -[NSApplication run] + 795
33 com.ableton.live 0x014abbc2 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3325076
34 com.ableton.live 0x014a7cde std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 3308976
35 com.ableton.live 0x00003232 0x1000 + 8754
36 com.ableton.live 0x00003159 0x1000 + 8537

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950ed2c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.ableton.live 0x0039db92 0x1000 + 3787666
2 com.ableton.live 0x0043a819 0x1000 + 4429849
3 com.ableton.live 0x0043a83d 0x1000 + 4429885
4 com.ableton.live 0x003a0f43 0x1000 + 3800899
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950ed286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950f4a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x029aaf0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0299d477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x029a107d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
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7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511edcd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x963f3b32 glvmDoWork + 162
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 4 Crashed:
0 Massive.Synth.vst 0x28ccceda NI::MASSIVE::MassiveAudio::onLowControlRate(bool) + 106

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950ed2c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.ableton.live 0x0039db92 0x1000 + 3787666
2 com.ableton.live 0x00340a75 0x1000 + 3406453
3 com.ableton.live 0x003a0f43 0x1000 + 3800899
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950ed286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950f4a7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x943dfe7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x943e0aa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9306b5f8 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9306b480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
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1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92c51917 MPDelayUntil + 39
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92c517ab Delay + 104
3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1e4ab7e8 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 21574
4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x1e4c6a5c RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 132794
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511f2af _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95120b33 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x95383dbc -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x95383bd0 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x95383b35 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x9590a6e8 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 753
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x9533ddfd -[NSThread main] + 45
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9533d9a4 __NSThread__main__ + 308
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x950ed3a6 mach_wait_until + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92c51917 MPDelayUntil + 39
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92c517ab Delay + 104
3 com.ableton.live 0x003a25db 0x1000 + 3806683
4 com.ableton.live 0x01233711 std::out_of_range::~out_of_range() + 735203
5 com.ableton.live 0x003a0f43 0x1000 + 3800899
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 com.ableton.live 0x001c5c3c 0x1000 + 1854524
1 ??? 0x1f4b2584 0 + 525018500
2 com.ableton.live 0x00075f49 0x1000 + 479049
3 com.ableton.live 0x0005fce6 0x1000 + 388326
4 com.ableton.live 0x00059e89 0x1000 + 364169
5 com.ableton.live 0x00059b7d 0x1000 + 363389
6 com.ableton.live 0x0005f9bd 0x1000 + 387517
7 com.ableton.live 0x0006a31e 0x1000 + 430878
8 com.ableton.live 0x0003a18c 0x1000 + 233868
9 com.ableton.live 0x0003a4b8 0x1000 + 234680
10 com.ableton.live 0x0003a6db 0x1000 + 235227
11 com.ableton.live 0x00c1adaf std::invalid_argument::~invalid_argument() + 86281
12 com.ableton.live 0x008cad58 0x1000 + 9215320
13 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9307d177 HP_IOProc::Call(AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioBufferList const*, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioBufferList*) + 319
14 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9307ce68 IOA_Device::CallIOProcs(AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&) + 274
15 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9307cd44 HP_IOThread::PerformIO(AudioTimeStamp const&) + 1246
16 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9307b11f HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 1239
17 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9307ac43 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
18 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9306b480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
19 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e155 _pthread_start + 321
20 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9511e012 thread_start + 34

Thread 4 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x47e80424 ebx: 0x28ccce81 ecx: 0x000193c4 edx: 0x47e80424
edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xb022e5d8 esp: 0xb022e400
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x28ccceda cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x000193c4

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#13 por Solid el 24/04/2011
Mayn escribió:
Crashed Thread: 4
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Thread 4 Crashed:
0 Massive.Synth.vst 0x28ccceda NI::MASSIVE::MassiveAudio::onLowControlRate(bool) + 106


parece que lo que peta es Massive...

Mi Música y programa en Soundcloud :)
Facebook del programa:)

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#14 por zsynth el 25/04/2011
tiene toda la pinta...

Two sounds are better than one...

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#15 por q-ba el 26/04/2011
peta porque es pirata y está mal crackead
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