Cómo puede un compositor encontrar trabajo

#106 por hollenius el 01/04/2017
A ver, si hay tantos anuncios es que necesitan composers a punta pala...

Y hasta los que hacen sounds library les llaman porque quieren hacer demos sonoras... ya podían pedirlo directamente, no llamando a esa web
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#107 por hollenius el 01/04/2017
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vangelion, tu has pagado muchas subidas? y te han llamado de alguna? cual es la proporcion? porque el negocio esta por medio
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#108 por Vangelion el 02/04/2017
#107

Vangelion escribió:
yo hasta el momento por fortuna mantengo mucho trabajo y no he tenido que escribir a alguna de estas ofertas, así que hasta allá no se si serán efectivas


Como ya comentaba Hollenius, nunca he tenido que recurrir a estos sitios, por lo tanto no tengo argumentos para poder asegurar que funcionan o si es un negocio detrás de otro negocio, es muy probable que sea así como nos comparte Kamikase, este es un negocio un tanto agresivo, al ser un sector tan difícil, es probable que muchos hagan negocio de esto, son pocos los que realmente ofrecen consejos o información de manera desinteresada, a mi me ha pasado que alguien me dice que tienen un contacto muy bueno para ofrecerme y que no me cobrara por brindarme el teléfono, o que me dan un teléfono y si cierro negocio debo compartir un porcentaje y el otro tal como lo describe de nuevo Kamikase, sentado, es por eso que yo prefiero el trabajo duro, las citas, los festivales, las relaciones publicas, depender de mi y mi capacidad para relacionarme, es lo que hago y es lo que me funciona, y como dice el dicho, si funciona, no lo cambies.
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#109 por Vangelion el 02/04/2017
Leyendo la publicación me encontré con este comentario que explica con mas detalle de que se trata ese sitio, aunque es igual de viejo a la publicación de Kamikase, no se si estará vigente esa dinámica de trabajo con ellos.

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Mark Northam
Film Music Network

Film Music Network
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#110 por Danilo Sante el 02/04/2017
Pues para mi es interesante, lo veo como cualquier bolsa de empleo pero con la ventaja que esta es enfocada en oportunidades de trabajo dentro del medio, por supuesto deben cobrar, una base de datos y una plataforma de esta magnitud no se sostiene sola, yo si lo veo como un buen recurso, sin embargo, creo que hay que estar en un nivel ya muy bueno y tener un portafolio muy decente para poder competir junto a otros aspirantes.
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#111 por Danilo Sante el 02/04/2017
miangaco escribió:
..... Y yo me pregunto una cosa: con la de talento que hay en este taller ¿por qué no hacemos algo serio?.
Y no me refiero a hacer unas versiones y subirlas aquí como hobby.


Vamos miangaco, que no se pierda el impulso, que propones? :comer:
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#112 por hollenius el 02/04/2017
Quiere montar un Holding hispa Enterprise, nos vamos rotando los trabajos, el problema es que cuando le toque al teniente a los demás nos borran de la lista, lo bueno, que cuando le toque a karpin y les diga que se lio con las librerías y que aun no pudo subir nada... y nos volverán a llamar... :desdentado: :plasplas: :plasplas: :platano: :bananaguit: :fiesta:
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#114 por Cornelius Robespierre el 02/04/2017
#113 pues anda que no molaría liarse la manta a la cabeza
#111 voy también a hacerme unas :comer:


hollenius escribió:
cuando le toque a karpin y les diga que se lio con las librerías y que aun no pudo subir nada... y nos volverán a llamar...

:mrgreen: :campeon:
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#115 por hollenius el 02/04/2017
Los de TSFH hacen trailers de pelis? Pero de forma oficial? O como Ashton?
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#116 por miangaco el 02/04/2017
#115
La mayoría de los trailers de las mejores pelis llevan musica suya.
Es un pedazo de negocio.
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#117 por Vangelion el 02/04/2017
#116 Es correcto miangacom, es un pedazo de negocio, Chromamusic, la otra empresa de Lucas Vidal, es relativamente nueva y ya se lleva una gran porción del pastel justo por la falta de empresas dedicadas de forma seria a este servicio, hay muchas que venden música prefabricada para montar las imágenes para trailer, pero la de Lucas es a medida, con todas las condiciones de un trabajo 100% Pro, así que es una muy buena idea de negocio y un campo de acción interesante con aun bastante posibilidades, no solo se limita a la música para un trailer de cine, también de productos, book trailers y todo tipo de promoción de servicios y productos que puedan ser acompañados de música con gran impacto.

Esta empresa por ejemplo ofrece las licencias de obras ya compuestas, también un gran negocio.

http://www.icontrailermusic.com/
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#118 por hollenius el 02/04/2017
Coño, pero si usan librerias.... Pues los cortes son como los de nuestro Taller, asi que solo nos faltanla web pa publicitarnos...Fortuna y gloria, que diria Indy...
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#119 por Vangelion el 02/04/2017
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#120 por Danilo Sante el 03/04/2017
Seria esa prácticamente la única inversión importante? La de contratar para una buena sesión y un buen vídeo para publicitarnos, que mas haría falta para poder montar un sitio así?
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